Live Blog: Hamilton Town Meeting

Live updates from the Hamilton Town Meeting at the high school on Saturday morning.

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12:53 p.m. Hamilton Town Meeting is adjourned.

12:53 p.m. Hamilton Avenue resident Jim Kent takes the microphone to thank the Board of Selectmen and Finance Committee for "ushering in a new day of intelligence and caring for all members of Hamilton."

12:52 p.m. Article 5-4 passes.

12:50 p.m. The final article is under consideration, Article 5-4, to transfer $275,000 from free cash towards the budget - the amount of money voters were . 

12:49 p.m. Article 5-4 passes with a voice vote with a handful of votes in opposition.

12:45 p.m. Article 5-4  is up for consideration. Board of Selectman Chairman Jennifer Scuteri makes the motion to submit a home rule petition to the state Legislature that would allow the town to negotiate health care coverage including copayments and deductibles outside of collective bargaining and to offer tiered plans.

12:44 p.m. Article 5-3 is approved by two thirds in a voice vote, approving an easement for National Grid at to . 

12:43 p.m. Article 5-3 is up for consideration, which requires a two third vote to establish an easement for National Grid for the new lights at Patton Park.

12:42 p.m. Article 5-2 is passed by a voice vote, establishing expedited permitting.

12:40 p.m. Selectman Marc Johnson is speaking about Article 5-2 to set up expedited permitting for the landfill.

12:39 p.m. The voice vote on Article 5-1 has gone to a card count. It passes with a few votes in opposition.

12:38 p.m. Bullivant says it was an excellent recommendation by Lawrence.

12:38 p.m. Willow Street resident Barbara Lawrence says that she supports establishing the Development Corporation but that its membership should include a resident of the downtown neighborhood.

"We need someone who speaks for those neighborhoods," Lawrence says.

12:35 p.m. Everything that comes out of the proposed corporation will have to have the full support of every board and committee in the town, Bullivant says in response to McKean's comments.

"It isn't possible to have progress in this town without consensus," Bullivant says.

Members will be chosen by the Board of Selectmen and accountable to the Selectmen, Bullivant says.

12:32 p.m. Robert Mckean of Woodland Meade, a member of the Planning Board, says that the plan for the Development Corp. was never brought to the Planing Board. It gives too much power to the proposed corporation, he says.

12:29 p.m. Bullivant says that instead of moving local meals tax revenue into the Commercial Economic Development Stabilization Fund (voters approved taking no action on that in Article 2-10) it should be moved to the Hamilton Development Corp., where the money would be used to .

12:25 p.m. Bob Bullivant is talking about Article 5-1, establishing the Hamilton Development Corp. It would tax-exempt holding company to help plan commercial development and would use financial tools to attract businesses to Hamilton.

12:24 p.m. Article 4-2 is approved, a move that makes the accounting for the easier for town accountants.

12:21 p.m. Article 4-2 is up for discussion. "It is not giving any more power to anyone," says Gretel Clark.

12:18 p.m. Article 2-13 passes unanimously by a voice vote to transfer $185,940 from the Capital Library Fund to the Capital Landfill fund to help pay to cap the landfill.

12:16 p.m. Article 2-13 is up for discussion. Town Manager Michael Lombardo says that it proposes to transfer $185,940 from the library capital fund to the landfill capital fund pay to cap the landfill. The money is from the bond to build the combined library and must be used on a similar project of a similar length, Lombardo said in response to a question from resident Lauren Prior. 

12:15 p.m. Article 2-12 for the town to enter into a five year contract to purchase MUNIS accounting software is approved in a voice vote.

12:13 p.m. Ramsey declares the motion approved by a two-thirds vote based on the cards held up in the air by voters. Article 2-11 for a bond to cap the landfill passes and now goes to a ballot vote on May 26.

12:13 p.m. Since Article 2-11 to asks to incur debt and it will require two thirds approval, Ramsey says.

12:13 p.m. Lombardo says DEP has said that the landfill needs to be capped by 2015. It depends on how the vote goes as to how strict DEP will be in handing down enforcement.

12:12 Lombardo said with a solar field the town would get a return on the investment within a year.

12:10 p.m. Resident Jerry Fallon asks when the town may start getting new revenue from development on the capped landfill.

12:07 p.m. Selectman Marc Johnson says the landfill closure was done 20-25 years ago to a previous standard and neither the DEP or town have any of the documents detailing the closure. In addition, one of two cells have not been closed to DEP standards.

12:06 p.m. Lombardo says that the cost of the bond would equal a 9 cent increase on the tax rate for 20 years.

11:59 a.m. Spang says that if the town does not vote to fund capping the landfill, an uncapped landfill could open the possibility of $3,450 to $25,000 per day fine from the state Department of Environmental Protection.

11:55 a.m. Betsy Spang is at the microphone to talk about Article 2-11, the $2 million debt exclusion override to pay to cap the landfill on Chebacco Road.

11:55 a.m. By voicevote, voters approve taking no action on Article 2-10, which would transfer local meals tax revenue to the Commercial Economic Development Stabilization Fund.

11:54 a.m. CPC Chairman Tom Catalano presents a PowerPoint presentation about the CPA spending for the coming year, which was just approved.

11:48 a.m. Article 2-6 is passed in a voice vote, funding the CPC's proposed spending, which includes $42,000 for restoration of of the heating system at the , $10,925 to restore a historic map of Essex County, $26,950 for restoration projects at the and $25,000 to pay for trail easement acquisitions and deed research for the Discover Hamilton trail.

11:43 Hamilton Town Meeting is back in session. The Community Preservation Committee's requests for Community Preservation Act spending is being considered.

11:38 a.m. Ramsey says the meeting is in recess.

11:37 a.m. The full motion passes with voters raising their cards. This sends the school budget back to the School Committee.

11:36 a.m. The motion to amend the school budget to the "giveback" amount - Hamilton's share being $15,307,333 - is approved 181-121.

11:33 a.m. Ramsey tells one voter who inquired that a simple majority is required to amend the school budget to the lower "giveback" amount. A vote on the main motion - either on the School Committee number or the "giveback" number - will still be required.

11:31 a.m. The count of voters in favor of the amendment to lower the school budget amount is complete. Voters opposed to the amendment are being tallied now.

11:28 a.m. The teller count on the school budget amendment continues, with the tally remaining to be completed in the center section of the seats.

11:21 a.m. The vote on the school budget is happening. A tally with voters raising their cards was not conclusive. Tellers are now moving around the auditorium doing a voter-by-voter count.

11:18 a.m. Bill Dery of Chebacco Road is outlining some areas of the school budget where he thinks overspending is proposed, including a $5,000 water bubbler.

11:15 a.m. "I sense an eagerness to vote," Ramsey said.

Town Counsel Donna Brewer is explaining the consequences of the vote. If the School Committee's budget is not approved, the budget goes back to the School Committee for it to recertify a new budget.

If the School Committee votes a school budget that is the same or less than the budget voted today, a new Town Meeting will not be needed. If the School Committee recertifies a new budget that is higher than the budget approved at Hamilton Town Meeting, a new Town Meeting would be required.

11:13 a.m."I trust the School Committee," says Kimberley Jaeger of Moulton Street, who says the School Committee is elected to support the children.

11:09 a.m. School Superintendent Dr. Raleigh Buchanan is at the microphone explaining that the district is a No. 2 district on a five point scale, with one the highest. The four new teachers in the budget are to get the district back to level one. New teachers includes teacher for language arts development at .

"I do not think this community deserves a school system that is ranked number two," he says. "We need to work to get back to number one."

11:06 a.m. Former Selectman Dick Lowe says he supports the "giveback" budget because it lessens the burden on the taxpayers while retaining staffing levels.

"I don't think we should be building cash reserves to address long term structural deficits," Lowe said.

11:05 a.m. Woman at microphone says past overrides have been for "basic needs and not luxuries" and the schools need a sufficient amount of money in its reserves.

11:03 a.m. Jim Kent says School Committee's vote in favor of its budget was not unanimous and the opposing votes on the School Committee made sense.

"We're making this way more complicated that it needs to be," Kent says.

11:01 a.m. Scuteri says towns with a similar amount of special education students are spending less than Hamilton-Wenham and per pupil spending in peer districts spend in lower too.

"We are spending significantly more on our special education program and we need to address it," Scuteri said.

10:55 a.m. Board of Selectmen Chairman Jennifer Scuteri is addressing the audience. She says Hamilton-Wenham spends $1,000 to $2,000 more than other high-performing peer schools.

10:53 a.m. Rick Mitchell of Rock Maple Avenue says "it is not about the numbers, it is about the principle."

"Collectively the School Committee doesn't get it," and it is time to recognize the taxpayers' hard work, Mitchell says.

10:51 a.m. Tracy Mayor says 10 people in the back of the auditorium have to go to soccer and she said there is confusion about the process.

Ramsey says that the first vote will be on an amendment to decide on the amount of the budget that will go to a final vote.

10:50 a.m. Lynette Fallon says Hamilton-Wenham schools spend 6.3 percent above the state average.

"Whether you think that is a good thing or a terrible thing, I don't know but I want you to have that in your head."

10:46 a.m. Jean Towne of Savoy Road says that her children learned in Hamilton-Wenham schools about "social justice" there is no "social justice" that seniors do not have their own .

Towne calls the School Committee "ruthless springtime money grabbers" and several members of the crowd yells "time."

10:44 a.m. Several members of the crowd yell "time" when the clock hits five minutes while Jay Burnham is speaking.

"Let's me civil here, the clock is a guideline," says Moderator Bruce Ramsey.

10:42 a.m. is addressing Town Meeting, representing Enough is Enough. He says the School Committee's budget is an override request disguised as a school budget.

10:31 McWane moves to amend the school budget to the "giveback" amount that is supported by the Board of Selectmen and Finance Committee.

10:29 a.m. Gray has gone over his five minute presentation time limit. He is wrapping up his outline of the 2012 school budget and explaining why the schools need more money in the "excess and deficiency fund."

10:11 a.m. School Committee Vice-chairman Jack O'Keefe makes a motion on the school budget. Assistant Superintendent Peter Gray steps up to the microphone to explain the budget.

10:10 p.m. The library budget is being discussed. Mr. Willnow of Mill Street says he uses the library often but considers it a luxury and wonders why the focus is on the school budget and not on the library. The $555,000 library budget is approved with a voice vote.

10:08 a.m. There were three holds, on "Protection of persons and property," library and schools. "Protection of persons and property" budget is approved in a voice vote.

Mena said that salaries for all town employees is up 1.5 percent.

9:58 a.m. The town budget is being introduced. Each department budget is being read, line by line. Ramsey is asking voters to yell out "hold" for items that they want more discussion.

9:56 a.m. The first action has been taken at the 2012 Hamilton Annual Town Meeting. Ten of the 24 articles on the Town Meeting warrant have been approved using a "consent motion." Those articles are 1-2, 2-1, 2-3, 2-4, 2-5, 2-7, 2-8, 2-9, 2-15 and 4-1. Check the town meeting warrant, attached to this blog as a PDF, for the details about those articles.

9:48 a.m. Ramsey is explaining the that are counted by the tellers. He is also showing the new time clock on the screen on the stage; five minutes for presenters and three minutes for speakers from the audience.

9:45 a.m. Selectman David Carey is explaining the formation of the Hamilton Housing Trust.

9:43 a.m. Lombardo is talking about the increases in the budget and explains that the Police Department's increase is larger than it looks because it is calculated based on 60 hours of unpaid time in past years for many officers, based on a settlement with the state Office of Emergency Medical Services.

"That reflected a lower budget in the past," Lombardo said.

The Police Department has been reduced from a 15 person department to 12 in recent years and to cover all the shifts the budget includes increased overtime costs of $50,000, Lombardo said.

9:40 a.m. Lombardo is outlining 2012 budget "challenges," which includes significant increases in health insurance and retirement costs.

9:38 a.m. Tax bills were due on May 1, but 50 bills totaling $1 million are still unpaid, McWane said. This is a reflection on the tough times and should be remembered when considering voting on articles that impact the tax rate.

9:31 a.m. The town and school budget is $23 million, up $99,000 in 2012, McWane said. 

The tax levy for 2012 will be down $258,000, which comes out as a 20 cent reduction on the tax rate, based on the current property values.

"This hasn't happened in my lifetime," McWane said, which was met with applause from the audience.

9:29 p.m. McWane is outlining the to support a $500,000 "giveback" in the school budget.

9:27 a.m. "The right thing to do is give it back and that is what we are doing in this line item," McWane said, in explaining use of the town's free cash in the budget, an amount equal to the amount that taxpayers was overcharged.

9:24 a.m. Lombardo gets an applause for the new energy and perspective he has brought to town government.

9:23 a.m. Finance Committee Chairman John McWane is giving a report about the financial health of the town.

9:22 a.m. Ramsey is introducing the town officials on the stage and at the front of the auditorium, which includes the Board of Selectmen, Finance Committee, Town Clerk Jane Wetson, Town Manager Michael Lombardo, Lombardo's assistant Chris Lindberg, Finance Director Deb Mena and Town Attorney Donna Brewer. 

9:21 a.m. Scuteri is reviewing the articles on the warrant where the Board of Selectmen seek voter support.

9:18 a.m. Scuteri is talking about the capital improvement plan and citizen survey that have been undertaken recently.

9:09 a.m. Board of Selectmen Chairman Jennifer Scuteri and Town Manager Michael  Lombardo is offering opening remarks, sharing some of the town accomplishments since the Special Town Meeting last October. Accomplishments include energy efficiency upgrades at town building, organic recycling and settling several union contracts.

9:05 a.m. Moderator Bruce Ramsey is introducing the procedures for the meeting.

Leigh M Keyser May 15, 2011 at 08:21 PM
It comes down to this, you live in a small town,and town business is conducted this way, with town meetings. Its your government and you vote on certain measures, budget and such. If you don'tlike this way of doing business, then move to a city and then you can yell at the council man who represents your section of the city. In that way, you won't need to sit at TM any more, and have your daily routine spoiled by town meetings
Jennifer Flynn May 15, 2011 at 08:23 PM
I think it is incorrect to generalize that people "who moan about the tax rate going up" complain about the length of the meetings. That would be saying that people who want their tax rate to stay the same prefer 4 hour long meetings. That doesn't make sense. I don't believe there is any correlation as to what method you would vote regarding taxes vs. how long you would like to sit in a meeting on a saturday.
Jennifer Flynn May 15, 2011 at 08:25 PM
Leigh I predict within 20 years the town meeting won't exist as it does now. There may even on line voting. The times are changing... (not stating my opinion about this just my prediction)
Leigh M Keyser May 15, 2011 at 08:40 PM
in checking Bobb Gates blog, the TM started at 9 a.m and ended at 12:35pm..looks more like 3 1/2 hours not four hours. and my comment was that folks who complain about the tax rate, are the same ones who raise comments on going to TM on Saturday, not about length of TM. Maybe your right about no TM in 20 years, however, you and I live in today's world, where there are town meetings to run town business. IF you don't like this process, then work on changing it.........
Janine May 15, 2011 at 10:32 PM
I experienced my first Hamilton town meeting on Saturday, I have made some observations I would like to say: Was it my imagination or was the moderator very anti-school comittee? It seems that there should be someone who is not biased either way. Jennifer Scuterri-it didnt seem appropriate that she stood on her soapbox considering she is one of the selectman? Seemed again a conflict of interest.....I thought it was not very neighborly for the people in our town who felt they had to yell time!!! When someone was speaking...either you should use a time clock and abide by it or not use one at all? And when we got to the vote.....chaos totally reigned...there wasnt any rhyme or reason, who can you be sure of the vote? Something needs to be done soon about the way the town meeting in Hamilton is run!!!!
Michelle Bailey May 15, 2011 at 11:12 PM
Jay, I don't like Wenham Town Meeting on Saturday either. Mercifully, this year the HWLL agreed to moved the Little League Parade and Picture day from May 7 to the morning of April 30 and St. Paul's choose not to hold first communions on May 7 at 4:30pm. But the Middle School drama was still held. The Jr. Prom was on the same day as Hamilton Town Meeting...from the pictures it looks like more people attended the send-off than Town Meeting. Saturday meetings could work, if the communities as a whole came together to place the proper importance on them and held off activities during the prescribed times of Town Meeting. Hopefully, as an advocate of increased participation, you'll join in the call to evaluate the best way to increase attendance by all and work to minimize distractions. Michelle
Jay Burnham May 16, 2011 at 12:38 AM
Michelle..."Mercifully"? Really?..."Mercifully"? As an advocate of increased participation, I am extremely pleased at the increased attendance since we have gone to a Saturday Town Meeting. It was during the era of weeknight Town Meetings that we were forced to lower the quorum to 75. The Town Meeting date is known a year in advance, so to your point, it's up to other groups and activity sponsors to plan around the Town Meeting date and time, not the other way around. Saturday meetings do work, throughout the state and throughout New England. But then, there are always complainers...ususally made up of voters who lost one motion or another.
Michelle Bailey May 16, 2011 at 01:09 AM
Jen, Soccer and LaX are the big sports besides Little League. It's more that they should avoid scheduling games after noon on the first Saturday in May and nothing before noon on the second Saturday in May. I've already contacted the School Committee about school related functions. But even the Hamilton Wenham Garden Club, Hamilton Wenham Mothers Club and Hamilton Wenham Green had events going on at the COA/Patton Park on Saturday morning. The BOS of Hamilton allowed the Garden Club to use the public facility for their event eventhough they of all people knew it was during the town meeting time. There's no respect for the importance of the meetings. Let's see what we can do to change that...Big Hug to Jay.
Tracy May 16, 2011 at 03:27 AM
I would like to see the Board of Selectmen take a much more active role in clearing calendar space for town meeting. A request for any one group or another to change a schedule isn't met with as much seriousness as it is when coming directly from the BOS. The LWV in particular does a great job in trying to get out the vote, and various groups have helped with child care, but it would be most helpful if the leadership from both towns took a more proactive stance far before the season begins in asking sports organizations in town to accommodate town meeting schedules. But there's still First Holy Communion, dance recitals, and statewide events like Science Fair and track meets that cannot be changed.
_________________________ May 16, 2011 at 11:09 AM
Most New England towns have town meetings in March or April on weekday nights. Let's look at Lexington, the cradle of American Democracy: Action on the Warrant starts with Article 1, the election of Town officials by all of the Town’s eligible voters. Lexington’s General By-laws call for the election to be held annually on the first Monday in March. By State law, in years when there is a Presidential primary, the election may be held on the same day as the National election. The polls open at 7:00 a.m. and close at 8:00 p.m. The date of the second session (the first deliberative session) is determined by the Selectmen and is specified in the Warrant. It is customarily held on a Monday or Wednesday two or three weeks after the election. Scheduling a Town Meeting on a busy Saturday in May is just a recipe for low voter turnout, which apparently is what our Hamilton government officials want. It is the same reason that the polls are only open for 4 hours in Wenham - they really don't want people to vote.
Bob Gray May 16, 2011 at 02:23 PM
Come on folks, its one Saturday morning a year! You can't schedule around that? What about the folks that can't get out at night? Or have to work at night? Or have to get up early during the week? You are never going to be able to accomodate everyone. As much as eveyone is complaining, the hall seems to fill up doesn't it! Saturdays are just easier for the majority of people. Sports activities affect such a small precentage of the citizens in town, it is not really an issue. Besides, these people rush into town meeting, vote on the school related issues only and then leave. They don't even care about all of the other important articles that affect how the town is run. Shame on them !!
Rick Mitchell May 16, 2011 at 03:24 PM
Wow it's simply amazing to hear the whinning and moaning about how incovenient it is to have to take a few hours of time out of one day a year to actually particpate in democracy. Maybe you should try whining to the hundreds of thousands of Americnas that fought and died in the Civil War to preserve the country you live in, or the 100,000's of mothers, fathers, daughters, and sons who fought and died in two wold wars to give you the right to express yourself! None of those men and women said "oh it it so hard to sacarifice my life and limbs becuase its not the right day of the week, or its not the right time of the day! Go tell that to the citizens of Egypt and Libya who were and are willing to die to gain the right to govern themslves. How about getting a little perspective on life and your priorities!
Jay Burnham May 16, 2011 at 04:15 PM
Janine...I hope you will continue to attend future Town Meetings. A couple of observations from someone that has attended decades of Town Meetings... 1. Yes, it was your imagination regarding your comment about the moderator. He is assuredly NOT anti-school committee and is as unbiased a moderator as I have ever known. 2. Just because Jennifer Scuteri is a Selectman does not mean that she forfiets her right to speak...particularly when what she has to say is in the interest of the Town of Hamilton. 3. You are correct about the rudeness in the room on Saturday, but the moderator did an excellent job of shutting down those who felt the need to be disrespectful. 4. Chaos did NOT reign during the voting process and perhaps in future Town Meetings, should you choose to attend, you will find that the method of voting is in fact proper and effective. Lastly, I recommend you read the book Town Meeting Time which will explain much more about the process, the history and the benefit of Town Meeting. Thanks for coming on Saturday.
_________________________ May 16, 2011 at 04:22 PM
Let's all be patriotic then and move Town Meeting to July 4th! We should get plenty of patriots who will give up their weekend to celebrate Democracy! Booyah!
Tracy May 16, 2011 at 07:01 PM
Mr. Mitchell, nobody's attacking democracy. We're saying our particular form of town government no longer works for its citizens. It's time for us to move to Representative Town Meeting, that's all.
Jay Burnham May 16, 2011 at 07:32 PM
Tracy...That's your opinion, and you are certainly entitled to it. I'm pretty sure that you would find disagreement, however, from the vast majority of residents who beleive in and take part in and appreciate Town Meeting just as it is. And as far as moving to a representative form of Town Meeting...well, all I can say is good luck with that. I don't see that happening either.
Janine May 16, 2011 at 08:40 PM
Jay, Clearly we werent at the same Town Meeting.......people all around me were commenting about how chaotic the voting process was,with people coming in and out during the precess...one woman even said she had to duck because they counted her wrong!! Lets go back to a ballot box so we know we get it right!! and not to mention how biased the moderator was!!! It must be wonderful to be able to turn a blind eye to what the people of the town are saying!!! Also, I would like to see our town come together regardless of politics and not put each other down as was done over and over on Saturday.....at one point someone at the microphone was quoting something he said someone on school committee said, that is certainly heresay...I actually think he may have been from your group, not sure......but in a nitshell....lets stop all of this nonsense and time being spent and do whats best for our community!
Jennifer Flynn May 16, 2011 at 08:55 PM
I think it is important to remember what a wonderful community we have here in Hamilton Wenham. I imagine we are all striving to keep our towns safe, clean and offer a strong education for the children. Some people have chosen to devote more time and energy to the political process of our town and some do not. For those who do not spend time or energy on local government then, in turn, they let the people who do spend the time make the decisions . It seems that simple to me.
Karen May 16, 2011 at 11:16 PM
Mr. Burnham, You might benefit from attending some of the anti bullying lectures that are held at the schools.
Lori May 16, 2011 at 11:31 PM
Jay I was at that town meeting too, I have to say that the animosity between the two groups is embarrassing. Yelling about "time" from both sides of the issue is uncivilized. This was not my first town meeting (far from it) but I would say that a first timer who found the meeting disorganized and uncivil wouldn't be far from the truth. Your reply just above to Janine is an example of this behavior. I have a 90 year old parent living on a fixed income and a student in our school system, I have been associated with the food pantry for many years, I am very aware of the needs of our community, and am equally aware of the need for enhanced language programs at all levels and AP classes in our high school. There must be a better way for the two sides of this debate to settle our differences. I for one believe that arguing over the day of the week and time that the meeting takes place is meaningless, it doesn't use our collective minds to solve the issues, it is simply a distraction and continues to point out the differences rather than the similarities.
Tracy May 17, 2011 at 04:26 AM
Seriously, people, an elected town meeting would solve all the problems we have identified here. If you are busy, or not able to follow the issues, you elect someone from your neighborhood, most likely someone you know well and trust, to represent your interests. If you care about the issues deeply, you are no longer in a room with people yelling Time and grandstanding at the microphone. You are among fellow elected peers who debate the issues with seriousness and (I hope) swiftness. Neither side on any issue (and believe me, there are more "sides" on more issues than just schools) can pack the room to bully its vote through. It causes the entire process to be more thoughtful and to be debated at a higher level of discourse. What's not to love? :-) <3
Bob Gray May 17, 2011 at 01:38 PM
Boy, this debate just won't die. For some time I have thought about the representative type town meeting but concluded that it would be no better than the way we do it now. It would just end up with which special interest group could get the most representives elected. (As in School Committee !!) I certainly agree that the system is not the best but it is what we have and it works. I do agree that a ballot vote should be taken on controversal articles. EiE tried last year to introduce this but was shot down. Jane Wetson has come up with a very simple system. I think we should give it a try. And Saturday Town meeting is still the most convienent for the majority of citizens !
Karen May 17, 2011 at 06:34 PM
wow......guess you told me.....
Janine May 17, 2011 at 06:43 PM
Karen, Funny!!!! I have decided to not retort to anything Mr. Burnham has written because he seems like a very angry person and not ready to listen to anything that the people of the community say! Its too bad.......it was ironic that he mentioned I was angry because "I didn't get my way" funny...as I don't have children....I just want whats best for our community and putting money into the schools makes sense long term.
Michelle Bailey May 17, 2011 at 08:17 PM
Debate is a discussion of opposing viewpoints. Suggesting people are misguided, bitter or need therapy is bullying.
Karen May 17, 2011 at 08:47 PM
Thanks ladies...well said
Linda May 17, 2011 at 10:29 PM
Are you "ladies" in second grade?
Tracy May 18, 2011 at 01:34 AM
Linda -- yes! Yes we are in second grade! And we'd like our schools to stay strong until 2111 when we graduate. Thanks for being onboard.
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